{"id":31053,"date":"2022-01-24T14:26:35","date_gmt":"2022-01-24T19:26:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/wading-in.net\/walkabout\/?p=31053"},"modified":"2022-01-24T14:26:35","modified_gmt":"2022-01-24T19:26:35","slug":"asking-the-right-questions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/wading-in.net\/walkabout\/2022\/01\/asking-the-right-questions\/","title":{"rendered":"Asking the right questions"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Believe me, I&#8217;m well aware that I&#8217;m not posting much and then I come in with something like this. You&#8217;re right to feel offended. Not that I care at all, but I won&#8217;t deny you your affrontage.<\/p>\n<p>So I was thinking earlier of the varying attitudes held when the subject of UFOs (or UAPs if you prefer, for Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon) and extra-terrestrials and so on comes up. Unlike many subjects, there is very often a clean divide in the stances taken, which I&#8217;ll crassly categorize as &#8216;believer&#8217; and &#8216;skeptic.&#8217; There may, in fact, be a lot of people falling into the large grey area between those two, and only the extremes tend to get into discussions, but for now we&#8217;ll stick with the most visible stances.<\/p>\n<p>Very often, such discussions may boil down to the believer saying of\/to the skeptic, &#8220;So you just don&#8217;t believe in extra-terrestrial life, then.&#8221; I personally can&#8217;t count the number of times I&#8217;ve seen this or some minor variation of it, even though I have yet to find <em>anyone<\/em> who&#8217;s actually expressed such disbelief &#8211; in other words, it&#8217;s countering a comment that no one&#8217;s made. But this says a little about assumptions, and filling in the blanks rather than addressing what really <em>has<\/em> been said, and so I&#8217;m going to list out a string of much more specific questions, not to answer them, but to illustrate what is usually being skipped. This bears more than a passing resemblance to Drake&#8217;s Equation, at least initially, but goes a little further.<\/p>\n<p>So we&#8217;ll start with<strong>:<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<li>Do you think life can develop on other planets?<\/li>\n<p><\/p>\n<li>Do you think life <em>has<\/em> developed on other planets?<\/li>\n<p><\/p>\n<li>Do you think <em>intelligent<\/em> (<em>i.e.<\/em> spacefaring) life has developed on other planets?<\/li>\n<p><\/p>\n<li>Do you think intelligent life <em>presently exists<\/em> on other planets?<\/li>\n<p><\/p>\n<li>Do you think intelligent life exists on other planets within a reasonable contact distance from Earth (say, within 20 light years)?<\/li>\n<p><\/p>\n<li>Do you think intelligent life is interested in contact\/observation? [This is one that is assumed by the majority of people on <em>either<\/em> side, but it&#8217;s rather a distinct factor.]<\/li>\n<p><\/p>\n<li>Do you think intelligent life is able\/willing to expend vast amounts of energy on this contact?<\/li>\n<p><\/p>\n<li>Do you think intelligent life would initiate contact\/observation in person (<em>i.e.<\/em> within our own solar system) rather than through distant communication?<\/li>\n<p><\/p>\n<li>Do you think intelligent life would initiate contact\/observation within easily detectable ranges (i.e. within range of radar or astronomical observation)?<\/li>\n<p><\/p>\n<li>Do you think intelligent life would initiate contact\/observation within lower atmosphere (less than 20,000 feet)?<\/li>\n<p><\/p>\n<li>Do you think intelligent life would initiate contact\/observation in random areas with highly visible craft?<\/li>\n<p><\/p>\n<li>Do you think intelligent life would initiate contact\/observation within craft that carried or emitted bright lights to completely eradicate the value of dark skies?<\/li>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Each one of these, of course, is less likely than the previous, perhaps by a minor amount, perhaps exponentially or better. Some of them simply beg the question of why such advanced intelligence would do something so hazardous and\/or pointless. I mean, <em>we<\/em> know the value of shutting off the running lights when we don&#8217;t want to be seen, and we can&#8217;t even take a jaunt out to Mars and back.<\/p>\n<p>Most believers operate on the stance that <em>all<\/em> of these have actually happened, or are at least fairly likely. Most skeptics consider the numbers falling so abysmally low that what is currently considered &#8216;evidence&#8217; to the believer is most likely misinterpretations, and the active skeptics are often capable of showing how and where. Personally, I find the last five questions to fall below a 1% chance <em>each<\/em> of happening, and to prove otherwise, someone would need a hell of a lot more than shitty photographs and random eyewitness accounts without a shred of corroboration. Naturally, it would help if <em>a)<\/em> the field didn&#8217;t have a horrendous history of failure, <em>b)<\/em> the believers showed more than a trace of investigative ability, and <em>c)<\/em> the &#8216;evidence&#8217; actually led someplace.<\/p>\n<p>But I suspect that this divide is mostly due to the difference in emotional attachment to the idea<strong>:<\/strong> those that <em>want<\/em> to believe in extra-terrestrial visitation concentrate on the factors that support the idea and ignore those that counter it, or handwave them away with phrases like, &#8220;A sufficiently advanced technology would overcome these restraints,&#8221; (as if the mere existence within a useful distance is something that an alien race could <em>develop<\/em>.) Meanwhile, the extremely minimal information provided by an odd shape on film, or the incredible ease in which someone could be mistaken (much less simply make a story up for giggles,) never even enters into consideration. I&#8217;ve made the comparison before to religion &#8211; the belief systems really are remarkably similar, but at least the visitation believers have photos&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>I used to be a believer myself, in my youth, and I wish I could point you to the factor that caused me to completely reverse my stance, but I honestly don&#8217;t know what (if anything) was key, or when this occurred. I cannot credit it, to my memory, to any particular person or article or anything, and what I recall most is the gradual realization that <em>a)<\/em> so many of the accounts were overblown and badly misrepresented by sensational media, and <em>b)<\/em> so many of the believers couldn&#8217;t see <em>any<\/em> flaws, and in fact actively fought against them when confronted with them. I knew, at least, that I did not want to be that blind.<\/p>\n<p>[I can at least credit some of it to an article in a long-defunct magazine, based on research done on perception and suggestibility &#8211; most likely done or influenced by the work of <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Elizabeth_Loftus\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Dr Elizabeth Loftus<\/a>, who&#8217;s a leading figure in the field. I highly recommend looking into this<strong>;<\/strong> knowing how easily we can be influenced towards something that we never saw, or never experienced, is eye-opening, and crucial to understanding &#8216;eyewitness&#8217; testimony at least.]<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, that&#8217;s my introspective, semi-philosophical sidetrack for the season, or the week or whatever. It&#8217;s still winter &#8211; you can expect more.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Believe me, I&#8217;m well aware that I&#8217;m not posting much and then I come in with something like this. You&#8217;re right to feel offended. Not that I care at all, but I won&#8217;t deny you your affrontage. 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